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		<title>By: &#8220;What business are you in?&#8221; -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</title>
		<link>http://www.hooversbiz.com/2008/08/03/let-dead-people-solve-your-problems-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-9954</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;What business are you in?&#8221; -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] question comes to mind because of this great comment Brenda Michelson made on last week&#8217;s post, &#8220;Let dead people solve your problems for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: brenda michelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>brenda michelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chiming in on the &#039;design patterns&#039; comment above, i was working with a company trying to move from retail silos -- store, catalog, web -- to true customer centric multi-channel retail. everyone was getting caught up in the enormity of each channel and the cross-interactions and then it occurred to me that as an organization &quot;we sell things to people&quot;.  while there was variation in the sequence of actions and physicality, there was a simple common denominator.  by recognizing the concepts of a common base and variations, we were better able to get our minds around the problem space and solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chiming in on the &#8216;design patterns&#8217; comment above, i was working with a company trying to move from retail silos &#8212; store, catalog, web &#8212; to true customer centric multi-channel retail. everyone was getting caught up in the enormity of each channel and the cross-interactions and then it occurred to me that as an organization &#8220;we sell things to people&#8221;.  while there was variation in the sequence of actions and physicality, there was a simple common denominator.  by recognizing the concepts of a common base and variations, we were better able to get our minds around the problem space and solution.</p>
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		<title>By: dblwyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dblwyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man must be orthodox upon most things, or he will never even have time to preach his own heresy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man must be orthodox upon most things, or he will never even have time to preach his own heresy.<br />
G.K. Chesterton<br />
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		<title>By: Tim Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.hooversbiz.com/2008/08/03/let-dead-people-solve-your-problems-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-9907</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexandre -- Good points all.

I think that you&#039;re right about &quot;common sense&quot; solutions. A high-priced consultant isn&#039;t going to make friends by coming in and saying, &quot;You need to get clear on what you&#039;re really after, and then you need to stop doing the bottom 80% of your projects that don&#039;t feed that goal.&quot; The execs are going to look around at each other and say &quot;Why are we paying all this money to get such simple advice?&quot;

The answer, of course, is that they apparently NEED it, or they wouldn&#039;t need to bring in the consultant in the first place.

Prentiss -- I&#039;ve long been a fan of Christopher Alexander&#039;s work, and in fact just this weekend I put my copy of &quot;A Pattern Language&quot; on my nightstand for browsing.  I hadn&#039;t thought about how that work might apply to business . . . but now the wheels are definitely turning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexandre &#8212; Good points all.</p>
<p>I think that you&#8217;re right about &#8220;common sense&#8221; solutions. A high-priced consultant isn&#8217;t going to make friends by coming in and saying, &#8220;You need to get clear on what you&#8217;re really after, and then you need to stop doing the bottom 80% of your projects that don&#8217;t feed that goal.&#8221; The execs are going to look around at each other and say &#8220;Why are we paying all this money to get such simple advice?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer, of course, is that they apparently NEED it, or they wouldn&#8217;t need to bring in the consultant in the first place.</p>
<p>Prentiss &#8212; I&#8217;ve long been a fan of Christopher Alexander&#8217;s work, and in fact just this weekend I put my copy of &#8220;A Pattern Language&#8221; on my nightstand for browsing.  I hadn&#8217;t thought about how that work might apply to business . . . but now the wheels are definitely turning.</p>
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		<title>By: Prentiss Riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prentiss Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An idea which originated in architecture and is becoming popularized in the tech world is &quot;design patterns.&quot;  One definition from Wikipedia is &quot;a general reusable solution to a commonly occurring problem.&quot;  Software engineers have used them for a while and now they&#039;ve spread through micro-level interaction design patterns to broader categories like social design patterns.  

For more info and examples see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_pattern

http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/

I think design patterns might have applications in business, at least in business practices which are subject to &quot;design,&quot; perhaps for example in business plans, organizational structures, and marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An idea which originated in architecture and is becoming popularized in the tech world is &#8220;design patterns.&#8221;  One definition from Wikipedia is &#8220;a general reusable solution to a commonly occurring problem.&#8221;  Software engineers have used them for a while and now they&#8217;ve spread through micro-level interaction design patterns to broader categories like social design patterns.  </p>
<p>For more info and examples see:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_pattern" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_pattern</a></p>
<p><a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/</a></p>
<p>I think design patterns might have applications in business, at least in business practices which are subject to &#8220;design,&#8221; perhaps for example in business plans, organizational structures, and marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TWalk Good use of the Einstein quote.

The NIN principle is one I associate with &quot;chronocentrism,&quot; the historical equivalent of ethnocentrism. I observe it very frequently, especially among technology enthusiasts.

It probably is quite difficult to offer simple solutions. There might even be, on the part of employers or consulting clients, a notion that what they pay for shouldn&#039;t sound like common sense.

But there&#039;s also a matter of being oblivious to the simplest solutions. When people focus on a problem too directly, they tend to miss out on the obvious because they rarely apply creative thinking. In other words, experts on the inside of a corporation tend to &quot;think inside the box.&quot;

The &quot;origami in space&quot; case was quite convincing. It makes a lot of sense once you think about it but it&#039;s quite likely that it took an abductive leap for people to come up with the initial idea.

One thing which tends to happen with the best TEDtalks is that the demonstration is so convincing that it hides the complexity of what went on before the presenter was able to reach a conclusion. The problem is mostly with the format, I guess, but it&#039;s also clear that people aren&#039;t too interested in discussing failed attempts unless they were steps along the path to the elegant solution. Plus, it&#039;s quite difficult to document some of the most important steps in the path toward a solution. The &quot;it suddenly hit me&quot; parts doesn&#039;t sound very useful. And though epiphanies can be narrated, they&#039;re difficult to reproduce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TWalk Good use of the Einstein quote.</p>
<p>The NIN principle is one I associate with &#8220;chronocentrism,&#8221; the historical equivalent of ethnocentrism. I observe it very frequently, especially among technology enthusiasts.</p>
<p>It probably is quite difficult to offer simple solutions. There might even be, on the part of employers or consulting clients, a notion that what they pay for shouldn&#8217;t sound like common sense.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s also a matter of being oblivious to the simplest solutions. When people focus on a problem too directly, they tend to miss out on the obvious because they rarely apply creative thinking. In other words, experts on the inside of a corporation tend to &#8220;think inside the box.&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;origami in space&#8221; case was quite convincing. It makes a lot of sense once you think about it but it&#8217;s quite likely that it took an abductive leap for people to come up with the initial idea.</p>
<p>One thing which tends to happen with the best TEDtalks is that the demonstration is so convincing that it hides the complexity of what went on before the presenter was able to reach a conclusion. The problem is mostly with the format, I guess, but it&#8217;s also clear that people aren&#8217;t too interested in discussing failed attempts unless they were steps along the path to the elegant solution. Plus, it&#8217;s quite difficult to document some of the most important steps in the path toward a solution. The &#8220;it suddenly hit me&#8221; parts doesn&#8217;t sound very useful. And though epiphanies can be narrated, they&#8217;re difficult to reproduce.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the smart comment, Alexandre.

1. The business world *is* often guilty of making things simplistic, but it often doesn&#039;t make things &quot;simple&quot; in Einstein&#039;s sense of &quot;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.&quot;

2. It&#039;s funny -- I had &quot;Not Invented Here&quot; in the back of my mind as I wrote this post, but I think you&#039;re really onto something with &quot;Not Invented Now,&quot; which I&#039;d never thought of.

I wonder, are too many folks in business too proud to say something like this:

&quot;Well, basically this is a straightforward problem, because it breaks down to A, which we understand how to do; B, which we&#039;re really good at; and C, which we can contract out. It won&#039;t be *easy* to execute -- but at least it&#039;s clear to understand.&quot;

Hmm . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the smart comment, Alexandre.</p>
<p>1. The business world *is* often guilty of making things simplistic, but it often doesn&#8217;t make things &#8220;simple&#8221; in Einstein&#8217;s sense of &#8220;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. It&#8217;s funny &#8212; I had &#8220;Not Invented Here&#8221; in the back of my mind as I wrote this post, but I think you&#8217;re really onto something with &#8220;Not Invented Now,&#8221; which I&#8217;d never thought of.</p>
<p>I wonder, are too many folks in business too proud to say something like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, basically this is a straightforward problem, because it breaks down to A, which we understand how to do; B, which we&#8217;re really good at; and C, which we can contract out. It won&#8217;t be *easy* to execute &#8212; but at least it&#8217;s clear to understand.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a very fun line. Funny version of the shoulders of giants, in a way.

Not to be snarky but, isn&#039;t the business world already adept at boiling complex issues down to simple (some would say &quot;simplistic&quot;) ideas?

Also, isn&#039;t the prevention of wheel reinvention in line with the tendency to think that everything which is done now must be completely new? Sounds to me like this tendency is even responsible for much inefficiency on the part of many institutions. A kind of &quot;Not Invented Now&quot; counterpart to the well-known &quot;Not Invented Here&quot; attitude.

Maybe I&#039;m completely off. I&#039;ve never worked in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a very fun line. Funny version of the shoulders of giants, in a way.</p>
<p>Not to be snarky but, isn&#8217;t the business world already adept at boiling complex issues down to simple (some would say &#8220;simplistic&#8221;) ideas?</p>
<p>Also, isn&#8217;t the prevention of wheel reinvention in line with the tendency to think that everything which is done now must be completely new? Sounds to me like this tendency is even responsible for much inefficiency on the part of many institutions. A kind of &#8220;Not Invented Now&#8221; counterpart to the well-known &#8220;Not Invented Here&#8221; attitude.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m completely off. I&#8217;ve never worked in business.</p>
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